August 25, 2012

The Quandary


I am in a quandary. This doesn’t happen very often as I am a relatively decisive person.  Maybe you guys can help me out?

A few weeks back, I met a guy while working.  We seemed to hit it off pretty well during the appointment and I thought there might be a connection there.  He is good looking, has a beautiful, clean home and he has a dog that he treats like a king (I like that in a guy).  During the appointment, we talked about relatively personal stuff.  He informed me that he had been married and his wife cheated on him two years ago and moved out.  He kept the house and in his spare time had added a sunroom, a pool house and a large covered patio – with his own two hands.  He said he builds things to relax.  (I like that in a guy too because (1) he is obviously good with his hands and (2) I require a relatively large amount of solitude and when I feel the need to be alone, I can say “You should go build something. Like a vanity or an armoire. You know, for ME.”). 
The pièce de résistance was when I walked into one of his spare rooms and saw a massage table. I stopped, turned to him and asked, “Do you have your own massage parlor?”  He responded with “No, my wife had back problems so I got certified in MASSAGE.” Hmmmm. 

During the appointment he was relatively complimentary (at one point he turned to me and said “You’re pretty smart.”  Yes. Yes I am and you must be pretty smart for seeing that).  Between the compliments and telling me that his wife was gone, I assumed that he was interested.  I also found out we have mutual friends, another bonus. 
The rules of my career are clear that there is to be no “impropriety,” perceived or otherwise, so I needed to complete my work for him prior to pursuing anything on a personal level (See?!? I am NOT a hooker), but I was pretty intrigued by this guy.  So I went home and thought of professional question to text him. I did and a texting conversation ensued.  More Hmmmm.

I completed my work in about a week and texted him to let him know that I was done. Another rather long texting conversation ensued in which he complimented my hair (which IS awesome, by the way).  “Ok” I thought, “this guy MUST be interested.”  He told me to contact him again after by upcoming trip and so I did.  This is where things get….confusing.
So he calls me and invites me to a professional baseball game on a Sunday.  “Oh, sorry, that’s my church day.”  Hahahahaha.   By now you all know that I don’t care for sports much but to prove it my ex-husband and I went to a professional ballgame many years ago and I was so bored I made him leave in the middle of the game.  I couldn’t even drink my way into fun with that.  The problem for me with baseball is the downtime.  The time spent between the plays is way too long; just get up there and hit the fucking ball.  You do not need to walk in a circle, hit the ground with your bat, adjust you balls and spit for 5 minutes prior to settling into your position to hit the fucking ball.  Why don’t you do that before you get up to bat so as not to waste my time?

Anyway, I told him I wasn’t really into baseball and that I would have to pass on the game.  (Let me just stop here and say that there are probably women out there that would have gone to the game, if only to spend time with this guy.  Those women don’t really like sports either, but would pretend to in order to get with a guy.  Those women are stupid.  I will never pretend to be someone I’m not to get a guy to like me.  What if you two hit it off?  You are now stuck going to ballgames together or you would need to “come clean” and tell him the truth, at which point he would feel duped.  The whole thing is a bad idea.)

O.K., back to our conversation:  after some more discussion about sports he states that he is pretty active in outdoorsy-type activities, kayaking, snowboarding and the like.  I would definitely try the kayaking (down a nice lazy creek, not that “white-water-hit-your-head-on-a-rock-and-die” kind) but I don’t do winter sports.  HOWEVER as a compromise, I AM willing to get dressed in the cute little ski-bunny outfit and wait for you by the bar in the chalet.  (See?? I can be flexible!)  He then asks me what I do for fun.  Let’s see….screw, write a funny blog, screw, read, screw… No seriously, my mind starts racing trying to think of something active that I do.  I couldn’t think of one thing.  I certainly couldn’t answer with “I’m pretty much a sedentary slug,” so I came up with dancing which I am trying to get back into by learning country line dancing (mostly because no one wants to see a 40-something woman hip hopping).  He said he feels the same way about line dancing as I do about baseball but that “the other two women I date both do that”.  Wait, what?
NOW the conversation is starting to get good.  I asked for further clarification of that statement and he stated that when his wife cheated and left- last summer- his friends set him up with different women, two of whom he currently dates.  For some reason I was under the impression that his divorce was two years ago (a good long time to get over THAT fucked-up situation) but came to find out it was last summer.  It’s a little close to my time frame of “one year after a divorce” that I will date a guy, but I might be able to get past that.  Boning two chicks and wanting to be thrown into the mix? Not so sure about that one.  Herein lays my quandary:

1.       I don’t do competition well.  It’s one of the reasons I don’t date married men.   How do I know that he isn’t thinking of one of the other ones while we are going at it? I mean, with three of us it would have to get confusing after a while.

2.       It’s not like I am looking for a serious committed relationship. Or maybe I am.  I don’t know.  As I’ve stated before, I have no intention of getting married again.  I am emotionally and financially secure (OK, financially anyway) and I’m not looking for someone to “take care of me” or anything like that. Furthermore, when things start getting really serious, I’ve been known to get scared and run.  So why should I have a problem with someone dating two other chicks along with me?

3.       Maybe it’s a control issue? If I am the only one, I have the control.  If there are 3 of us (this is starting to sound more and more like “Sister Wives”), and I have an upcoming event that I want him to attend with me; do I need to schedule it 4 months in advance to know that I get that date?  I’m not a great turn-taker. I want what I want and I want it now.

4.       Maybe it’s more of a time issue. He stated that one of them is “quite young” (what the fuck does that mean?? Great. Now I have to compete with a 25 year old??), and she lives south and comes up for entire weekends to hang out. I think I’d like someone that has more time than once a month but less than 5 times per week. (See?? I don’t know what the hell I want.) 

5.       I do like his honesty.  No punches pulled; just straight-out lay-it-on-the-line honesty.  Refreshing.

6.       He gives MASSAGES.

7.       He builds shit.  Like with hammers and saws and wood. 

8.       He is incredibly busy. Besides his full time job and dating, he volunteers with many organizations: from music to teaching winter sports to cleaning up highways for his company.  Volunteering is admirable.  Picking up used condoms and heroine needles from the side of a road is gross.

9.       He gives MASSAGES.

10.   It’s almost a challenge to show him my bag of tricks and see if he kicks the other two to the curb.  If he does, I win. But then what? I end up coming up with some stupid excuse to break it off and he’s alone again? Maybe I won't this time? And what if he doesn’t kick them to the curb? It would be a massive blow to my ego.  I don’t enjoy massive blows to my ego.  They piss me off.
 
 
Yes, I am over-thinking as usual.  It’s what I do.

So I’m turning the tables on you guys this week.  Usually it is I giving the advice (for lack of a better term).  This week it is me with the question: Should I go on a date with this guy and see what happens or should I just move on (move on to WHAT? I have no idea.)

 
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16 comments:

  1. I would go out with the guy and see what happens. You sound like you have to make decision on this this afternoon. Hell no. Go out with the guy and see what happens. You can decide later whether he's worth a big investment. You seem to know where you stand. Just go out with the guy and see what happens. Take him for a massage and a romp in the sack, if appropropriate, then decide. By the way, I can tutor you on baseball if it gets to that point, but as an avid baseball fan, I detest all the same things you do...

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    1. I would take you up on that baseball tutoring offer if I cared. But I don't. So...No.
      However, I like your romp in the sack advice. That's what I got out of your entire paragraph. :D

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  2. I think you should date him and see what happens. As you said, he's been honest with you, so it's not like you'd discover you're not his one and only six months down the road. It just seems wrong to rule out a guy who gives massages before the first date!

    P.S. I have reflected on whether my advice is biased by the fact that I want to read your follow-up report about your first date with massage guy, and it totally is. I still think it's good advice though.

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  3. Don't pre-think too much. Go on the date with an open mind to just enjoy whatever presents itself. AFTER the date you can overthink as much as you want. ;-)

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  4. Don't under estimate the value of a good massage

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  5. Sheeeeit, I do think K has been implying you and I may have a quality or two in common, and may not be wrong. That's cos K's wise. Dammit. ;) <3

    Oki, firstly, if he's already dating two womens -- much less if he's THAT busy on top of it -- he for sure really likes you.

    But, since he's dating two womens, he's kind of in a better position here, no pun intended. He's in a lot of ways pretty content. He can go ahead and like you without freaking out and blowing it. It's a place good for the confidence.

    Last summer -- well, if that's when the divorce actually went THROUGH, not so bad. Do understand your discomfort on that point.

    He is awesomely honest. You'd better be too. Doesn't mean you can't, in some ways, be a little honestly EVASIVE. What I mean may make more sense in a minute. Cos, again, he's in a better position than you.

    (I truly believe I am doing you a favor by overthinking this, so's ya know...)

    So yeah, what the hell, why not! Go do something else with him that's NOT a baseball game (tho I'll note you could still do that, in life, without giving him the impression you gave much of a shit).

    And I think, simultaneously and while very much letting him know, you step up your game and start going on a lot more dates.

    Might I add, in MY opinion, DO NOT SLEEP WITH HIM OR ANY OF THESE OTHER GUYS during this trial period. Oh I know, so tempting!! But in this situation, I'm gonna go with really try not to! Anticipation is not a bad thing, and while hormones are gonna wrack your brains no matter what, I actually think you will still be able to think a little more clearly than otherwise, and better decide what to do.

    This is a guess, that you have a pretty strong humorously sassy competitive streak. Put it to work. Honest you shall be, but you know what, it's OKAY if he wonders whether you're really digging any of these other dates more than he wishes that you would. This evens the playing field (in a good and healthy way) and you will feel better.

    Also, bee tee dub, I am strongly taking into account the urge to freak out and run away when you see something you like -- or worse, when you taste something you like -- much less when there's this other whole question as to whether or not you could even HAVE it on top of whether you'd WANT to. So, yknow, keeping you busy on many levels.

    (I know... I KNOW! How could I suggest no sex?! Am I against cookies and beer and cheese as well?! Newp. All of the above are awesome. Major making out is MOST CERTAINLY indicated, as appropriate. And, uh, sometimes we fail in our resolve -- I'm just sayin' a little resolve MIGHT be called for here.)

    Demented food for thought and a possible challenge! DO IT YOU WON'T DO IT ;)

    "N.S."

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    1. You lost me at "No Sex". See my previous blog of October 2011 titled "Dating and Monogamy" and the one of December 2011 titled "Dating the Virgin". I rest my case. Lol. Thanks for reading!

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  6. I say go out on a date and see what happens, but I agree with "N.S." NO SEX (at least not yet!!) Massage--YES!! Sex-no. He was honest and upfront with you, a quality you don't find in too many guys, at least not the single eligible guys.

    His divorce was final last summer. That is OK, just because it was final last summer doesn't mean it wasn't started long before that. I doubt it was the simple 90 day sign and you are divorced type of divorce. I'm sure he may still have some wounds. Sure, he married her, loved her and she cheated. He will probably always carry those wounds. You can't just erase that. The point is, the marriage is over and he has moved on.

    As for dating 2 other girls, good for him. Why should he settle for just 1 girl right now? Obviously he hasn't found one that makes him happy enough to WANT to settle down and date just one yet. Maybe that can be you. You won't know unless you go out on a date or two. Just don't give away everything right away. Let him wonder, let him get to really know you, and get some great massages too! (you could always let him think you are dating other guys too.) Kim

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    1. Let's see...me: naked on a massage table. Him: massaging me. Us: no sex. What am I a saint??

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  7. Well now, I'm thinking that you've gotting QUITE a BIT of great advice from my fellow blog-followers. I must say I agree too :)(Except for the part about the 'no sex' because gosh it's AWFULLY hard for girls like us to really go through with the 'no sex' thing...hate to say it but it's true and honestly by the time you hit your mid-forties what the hell are you holding out for? HAVE FUN! (safely!)~ NOT TO MENTION the fact that I can't possibly imagine being massaged - on a date no less - by an attractive straight man and then not jumping him...but gee, maybe that's just me...)

    Otherwise, much agreement with all of the above, particularly my rather long-winded yet amazingly wise and wonderful friend "N.S." and the lovely Kim.

    I REALLY like his honesty, and nothing wrong with (safely) playing the field until you find the one you want to settle down with. It sounds like he has a lot of interests...I'm sure you will find some in common (even vertically). You could always go on a date with the common friends in attendance if you need a little "getting to know you" time before you get massaged into oblivion!

    Love you~

    K.


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    1. Now your talkin'! You are a girl after my own heart (and libido). This sounds like the best advice I've heard all day. Ha!!

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  8. Have you banged this dude yet???

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    1. As a matter of fact, just posted an update today...

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